lost surfboards deteriorating?

unfortunetly lost is an awful organization. they preach hardcore but come out hypocritical. unless you're a lost team rider you're probably getting either a china board or a sub par "ghost" shaper board. the biggest issue with boards dying is the glassing. its too easy to ruin a great shape with bad glassing.

the lost rocket is glassed extra light> thats probably why you loved it at first. as soon its ridden a few times it starts to die.

big factories like lost are victims to bad glassing because of the shear volume of boards going through. you get paid by the job not the hour, so... quality comes after speed.

 

Sounds like the only "victims" are their customers.

Not the first story I've heard about their boards falling apart prematurely.

 

Ive got a LOST RNF and it's perfect. If your complaining about glass then you should special order your board and SPECIFY that you want more glass. Come on people you need to know that buying a stock board means that you get a stock product. Some people like to bash boards by heavy footing it or just not knowing how to surf. Before you bash a company you should look at your surfing. Stop being so picky and surf it. It's 2009, if you don't know that your surfing ability might call for more glass on your board...then give up. Go get a piece of paulmonia wood and shape your own.

 

I have seen that too with there boards , Fin boxes poping out , stringers coming apart and poping out. Its not on there "Stock" boards either. Dosent matter if its a stock board or a custome board. Stringers and Fin boxes shouldnt pop out. Stringers usally pop out when someone to heavy for a board rides it and the the weight of the rider puts pressure on the rails and kinda bending the board down pushing the stringer upward. The fin box might have had air under is and over the summer if the board was in alot of heat the air could have expanded and pushed the fin box up.

Stock board or custome is sholdnt matter. You pay good money for a board it shouldnt fall apart in a few months when no signs of abuse as mentioned from the last post are mentioned

 

haha you ididot, so what your saying is that a person is riding the board with one foot on each rail making the board flex?? Impossible unless your riding like a kook. Kinda bending the board? Get real..stringers are the spine of a board allowing it to bend. Fin box with air under it?? Wtf air does not cause fin boxes to pop out. Hitting bottom will... Boards only fall apart when you dont know how to ride them..oh and it's custom not custome. I've been selling boards for 10 years and ive never seen any of what you mentioned ever happen on any make of board. Only normal wear and tear. Go to a local surf shop in jersey and tell them what you just posted on here and watch them laugh at you.

 

Actually I wasnt refereing to a person standing on the board . I was refering to a person too heavy for a board sitting on it . You see what happens when I guy is 285 and is trying to balance him self on a 6'2 x 19 X dont recall the thickness . Actually a local surf shop owner told me thats why the stringer was poping out of my friends board and he has been in the buisness for 20+ years making , selling and repairing surfboards

As for the finbox poping weather he ran the board to the bottom we dont know cause he hasnt said . But its common sence if there is a void of air , gas , water ect between two objects and its air tight seal well what ever is in the void will expand and contrast depending on temperature if its hot or cold .
For example if you ever fix and board repair and dont get all the water out of it and the board sits in a non heated cold enviorment like a shed or any place where it is not heated . That water trapped in the board will expand when it turns to ice opeing the repair. The same thing would happen if there was air trapped in the board and it was stored in a exessive heat enivorment. The that may be trapped in the board expands.

From what he has told us we can not say weather or not that the issue's with is boards are from either his abuse or poor craftsmanship.

 

Nattydread

Lost boards do not hold up all that well and thats a well known fact. Are all rastas in NJ as agro as natty dread lock... The last time I was in NJ I went to the local surf shops to buy LOST stickers for my car but every shop was sold out... nappy dreads must have bought them all.

 

I used to repair boards for a shop and saw a lot of ...Lost boards with that exact problem...deck compression on both sides of the stringer so the stringer became raised up. Not just heavy guy's boards either either. I just got done repairing my own Lost RNF with the same problem.

 

Not everyone in NJ is Agro. I never was impressed by anything from Lost since they first came out. All the groms buy that stuff up , where I am at. Sorry you couldnt lower the resale of you car with a LOST sticker.

Yeah it a common problem with them . But Nappy dreads with call you a idiot too so watch out. He must not have put the bong down during science class . It simply knowledge that things expand and contrast under temperature changes.

 

This is where i disagree with you..i think Lost has made some of the best shapes in the last 10-15 years. Many board makers owe a debt to Biolos for making the round nose fish and blowing minds (mine included) ten years ago. There are literally hundreds of imitations now.

The boards made of lightweight poly foam and are glassed lightly. You're going to get less life out of it than you will from a heavier board...enjoy the ride and learn to do some repairs and it will all work out.

 

Hey thats cool man . Thats your opinion and your entitled to it . I have never been a short board fan (not that I cant ride a shortboard its just not my thing) I had a few 6'2 Al merricks, and a 6'4 Fetish. I would ride them for a while and sell them . I am really old school when it come to my style of surfing. I enjoy the flow of it long nose rides and big drop knee turn.
They do some really great things on shortboards but its just not my thing. If I was to ever buy another short board it would be a 70's style single fin shortboard thick wide with alot of glass .

 

Haha ok guys.....being that you pro's know everything about fixing boards and what not i'll let this rest. I know these guys personally and have been through the San Clemente shaping area first hand....it's not a warehouse or a factory but you guys seem to know everything.. It's actually called the surf ghetto...Have you liquid shredders even heard of that term? Probably not since your probably not familiar with where the surf industry/culture started. Take some time and sample a few boards and see what happens..you will get different wear and tear results for different boards....duh because not every glass job is the same! One glasser may use more cloth than others????!! Any of this ever cross your mind guys? Oh thats right your probably riding a MERRICK FLYER and rocking a bright wetsuit at 48th Street in OC, oh and fixing dings with SUNCURE but hey i'm totally on your side...Lost sucks..don't ride them..leave it to people that have fun surfing instead of sitting on a computer screen talking about how a board gets wear and tear...GET A TUFFLITE OR A FIREWIRE... HEARD EVERY KOOK IN TOWN RIDES THEM!!

 

Wow took you a whole day to come back with that????? Did you show this post to you personal friends at Lost and they gave you this to post back as you attempt as a rebuttle

Yeah its best for you to let it lay cause you really making your self look bad. More than one person has seen the issue with the thread starts board and you back peddling can not keep up. I am sure Lost would take care of the situation if found that the issue was not the rider.
Different board with different glass job make board perform and hold up in different ways. Not are board are the same yes that is right. So you have been to there shaping "Area" ( if its not a warehouse for a factory where they shaping these boards in someone's tent or garadge in there backyard ???) If you know these guy first hand maybe when you send they a christmas card you can leave them a PS in the card about what some of there customers have had with there board.

I have a solution

EVERYONE FOR NOW ON DONT BASH LOST SURFBOARD OR DISCUSSS A NEGATIVE ISSUE ABOUT ANY OF THERE PRODUCTS!!!!!

NAPPYDREADS RIDES THERE JOCKS AND WE DONT WANNA GET HIS TAINT ALL TWISTED

There that should fix that for you Nappy hope I could help

 

Again, your a AL MERRICK *** that enjoys long nose rides and big drop knee turns on a 70's single fin shortboard???????????? Do you know that everything your saying makes no sense at all??? Haha you must be from another planet where it's possible to do drop knee turns and noseride on a shortboard, but hey sea biscuit your the shredder here not me. Keep on keepin on and i'll look for the kook out there with the rental wetsuit, zinka, and a 70's retro shortboard noserider that is escpecially glassed for SERIOUS NOSERIDERS LIKE YOURSELF.

Do yourself a favor and stop talking about an issue you can't back up..

Hope you have a swell time riding your NSP this weekend

 

Oh and MATT JOHNSON welcome to SWELLINFO 3 days ago...........If you have nothing good to say about a board or someones issue with a board then don't say it. Swellinfo I'm sure hates people like yourself that get on here just to get under peoples skin. You need to take people's information that they give you" AKA FORUM" and try to learn something from it and not bash it. Happy surfing!

 

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You type thats all you do . Just cause it Ride a longboard dont mean thats all I ride. So what I have been here 3 day big deal what does that have to do with anything. Hey I commented on the issue with his board and its not uncommon. Your the one that went on the bashing rant not me

Whats wrong you can handle a negative opinion about lost surf boards big frigging deal. If someone didnt like the brands I perfer I wouldnt bash them for it . Last time I check this is a free world and People are allowed to have opinoins. Sorry that you could try muscle me into likeing what you like but I am not some little highschool gromment. I have been involved in surfing since I was born and I have and seen Agro kooks like you come and go. So quit you crying already its kinda old .

Your have no clue what you are talking about what so ever . Your just pissed that a few ppl here have seen the same issue and you can handle that you were wrong. Hey I commented on the issue with his board and its not uncommon. Your the one that went on the bashing rant not me. God forbid anyone have a bad experience with company you support. LIke I said if the defect is Lost's fault I am sure they will take care if the issue.




And you really wanna find me come to my strech of beach you more than welcome. If you come in the summer I am the one in the black Birdwells and beaver tail having fun.

 

yeah I have had a few Al Merricks, I have had a few Losts, along with WRV's Fetish , and the list goes on .

Never said I was gonna try to ride a 70's style single fin shortboard like a longboard that your weak ability to change peoples words around..

The only bashing I see here is in all your replies. This forum is a place to expand ones horizions on surfing and life too in its own way. Its a shame some people have to slow up the process



The issue was backed up by more than just me .

Have a good evening

 

So let's get this straight Dreads....you're defending Lost surfboards by saying their glass jobs are inconsistent....and not only due to variations in workmanship, but intentionally, because the different glassers just like to do things differently? Sounds like they have some major quality control issues if that's the case. I'm afraid you're not helping their cause any by revealing that information to the world via internet. Gee...will they even have the some number of layers of cloth from one to the next I wonder? And how will I know what I'm buying? I'm new to surfing and I don't think I'll ever buy one of their products after reading your "defense" of them. Heh. Good job, bro. Thanks for steering us clear of an obviously questionable product, even if you didn't mean to! You may have just saved countless of us from wasting money on a product that won't last us through a full season, and we all owe you one.

 

Hey Matt... you are coming off like a kook man.

I don't know you, but you are baggin on a great shaper (Matt Biolos) that has mentored and employeed a LOT of fantastic shapers here in Southern California over the past couple decades. Shapers (and legends) like Brian Bulkley,Todd Proctor, Noah Budroe, Garth Day, & Tommy Moore which you refer to (with disdain) as "ghost shapers" make a living feeding their families ghost shaping for Matt (as well as shaping boards under their own label- BB is a north shore legend!). Hell, Tommy Moore from your own beloved East Coast ghost shaped for Matt. And Todd Proctor- do I even NEED to explain to you how good he is??? I don't care if others on this "issue" backed you up". If you want to publicly bust on a great shaper (both the speed demon and the rnf are two of the best shaped boards for Southern California, and the Rocket is a great shape too) on a forum, you will find push back.

You mention AM, you do realize that Al also had fantastic ghost shapers too, right? Shapers like Malcom Campbell and Marlin Bacon. ALL major shapers have ghost shapers, punk. That does NOT mean they are poor in quality. The shaping HAS NOTHING to do with the glassing!

If you have an issue with a glass job or a board from Lost period, go on the surfermag.com forum and call Matt out on it. If somebody buys a Lost board that is super light and has very light glassing, they should NOT be suprised that the boards are going to last a very short time. Everybody who buys one that knows that these are performance boards, glassed lightly, and are made to last with a much shorter lifespan than other heavier glassed boards. People who know surfboards know this going into their purchase. If you purchase a ...Lost board, expect a short but blisful life out of the board. That's it. No need to bust on them, no need to call them out, or call their quality out. If you want a ...Lost board that will last, buy a carbon fiber model.

I quote you here... "I have had a few Losts" on your last thread but earlier you stated that you have never been impressed with them and that you are basing your knowledge on your friends experiences... smells like BS to me man. You have no clue and you have never owned one, have you?

Because you started bashing them with no knowledge of the company and have never surfed one, I am calling BS on you. You are a kook, kook.

Stick to longboard topics. I hate people who bash on shapers that have no clue.
Oh, and it's not a factory. The shop in San Clemete is not that big.

You are just sooooo wrong on so many levels it's nutso.

I'm done torching you. Carry on.

Oh, here is your "factory" ...