Ocean swimming techniques

Discussion in 'Global Surf Talk' started by McLovin, Jul 18, 2012.

Most Efficient Swimming Technique in Ocean, IYO

  1. Freestyle

    37 vote(s)
    62.7%
  2. Breaststroke

    7 vote(s)
    11.9%
  3. Backstroke

    2 vote(s)
    3.4%
  4. Butterfly

    3 vote(s)
    5.1%
  5. Sidestroke

    5 vote(s)
    8.5%
  6. Other

    5 vote(s)
    8.5%
  1. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

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    Jun 27, 2010
    A few weeks ago I watched the recent Olympic trials for swimming, and I thought it would be a good idea to get everyone's opinions on what they feel is the most efficient swimming style in an ocean with some swell.

    There are probably a few lurkers on here who do triathlons, and I honestly don't have a lot of experience swimming in the ocean other than on small days or when I go longboarding leashless and have to swim after the board every once in a while.

    I always swam freestyle whenever I lose my board in the surf because that's really all I know. I've read on other site where breaststroke is actually a preferred way to swim, even though you're slow, in big surf when you lose your board since your head is above the water and you can see in front of you.
     
  2. BeeVee

    BeeVee Active Member

    38
    Sep 1, 2008
    I did a triathlon for the first time this year so I am no expert, but I used the freestyle stroke for most of it, occasional breast stroke so I could keep myself on track. Open water swimming gets addicting, I have been out of the water for a bit, and can't wait to get back in. Freestyle is what I had read to be most efficient swim stroke. Do a Google search you will return more information than you can sort through.
     

  3. Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool

    Earl of Funk/Duke of Cool Well-Known Member

    78
    Aug 17, 2011
    All valid points. I've been open-ocean swimming for decades and I find that keeping your rhythm doing freestyle is not only the most efficient, but the most relaxing. However, when doing open-ocean swimming, you have to figure out the best way to keep your bearings with minimal slow down and minimal disruption of your breathing and stroke rhythm. To do this I switch to breast stroke for a few strokes and then switch back to freestyle.
     
  4. dlrouen

    dlrouen Well-Known Member

    814
    Jun 6, 2012
    Butterfly stroke!
     
  5. parippa

    parippa Well-Known Member

    58
    Mar 20, 2012
    Isnt' streamlined dolphin kick the fastest a human can move through water? It's not on your list. Notice in competitive swimming they have restrictions on how far they can do it before they have to come up and start stroking.. otherwise they'd go the entire length underwater.
    so just quit breathing and you'll go fast.
     
  6. Mr.Belmar

    Mr.Belmar Well-Known Member

    Aug 19, 2010
  7. McLovin

    McLovin Well-Known Member

    985
    Jun 27, 2010
    But whenever they do that, they're usually pushing off something, and that's where they're momentum comes from. Can't really do that out in the ocean.
     
  8. ND081

    ND081 Well-Known Member

    900
    Aug 7, 2010
    the dolphin kick is the fastest, but only to a certain point, as it is not hydrodynamic to maintain it past a certain distance. once you lose a lot of your momentum, it becomes easier and faster to just swim a regular freestyle stroke. it also isn't very practical in open water swimming since you have nothing to push off of and it drains energy faster.

    and as for swimming in big surf, freestyle is obviously the fastest, but breast stroke is really the ideal stroke because you can see where you're going, and if you're about to take one on the head. you're aware of your surroundings and position which is crucial in big waves, and you have more control. i wouldn't recommend trying to swim freestyle in bigger waves unless you really need to get your @ss into the channel or out of the way of another surfer.
     
  9. Gfootr

    Gfootr Well-Known Member

    538
    Dec 26, 2009
    The Man from Atlantis did. Gotta love 70's TV!
     
  10. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

    460
    Aug 19, 2010
    it sort of depends how far you have to swim, but i like heads-up freestyle in surf
     
  11. 15stwr

    15stwr Well-Known Member

    71
    Oct 5, 2010
    freestyle is easily the fastest and most efficient (and best for riding waves if you are headed to shore). if you tire easily and/or need to get your bearings switch for to breast. never heads up freestyle, if your head is above the water you should be doing breast. being a strong swimmer is a HUGE asset as a surfer when it is thumping and has saved me many a time over the years. it amazes me why more surfers do not swim..
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2012
  12. Swellinfo

    Swellinfo Administrator

    May 19, 2006
    I've been doing a bit of ocean swimming since its summer, and there's not that much surf.
    I find is really difficult... well, at least in Delaware, where the ocean is so murky you can't even see your own arms under water. If your in clearer water, I think that would help a lot.

    I tend to do half and half freestyle and breakstroke. Since the ocean is so murky, I tend to feel lost and not sure if I am going in the right direction, so I swap in the break stroke to get me back in focus.

    Its a ton more challenging then swimming in a pool. And, if you have any current or chop, its really hard.
     
  13. 15stwr

    15stwr Well-Known Member

    71
    Oct 5, 2010
    you may want to try wearing a pair of fins when open ocean swimming. i find it adds a layer of confidence and flow to combat the chop and current.
     
  14. Sandbar18

    Sandbar18 Well-Known Member

    144
    Nov 22, 2009
    Freestyle is by far the fastest way to get from point A to point B.
    Back in my guarding days, I did very well in open water swimming competitions. However, I definately was not the fastest person if we were competeing in a pool. Some of the keys to efficient ocean water swimming is knowing where you're at, knowing where you're going, and the fastest way to get there using the ocean's currents. Sometimes the current is stronger closer to shore, other times it's further offshore. The use of Rip Currents to get out to sea, and riding waves to come in, etc
    Also, a lot of people cant swim freestyle in a straight line, but they don't realize which way they're going because they have little to reference. I see it every time I watch a beach patrol during a training session. Experienced guards swimming 30 degrees in the wrong direction for 30 seconds before they realize they're off course. Or when the guard needs to go in for a rescue, the neglect the sideshore current and enter the water straight in front of the victim instead of entering 60 yards past the victim. This results in much more swimming and costs valuable time if a person is in danger of drowning.
    I always bi-lateral breath, and keep my eyes on the beach when I breath to that side, making sure I'm parallel to the beach each time.

    Breaststroke has its place. In big surf, it's usually required to keep your bearings straight and if you ever need a breather or go into panic mode, this is the stroke to use.
     
  15. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

    460
    Aug 19, 2010
    why do you say that?
     
  16. ND081

    ND081 Well-Known Member

    900
    Aug 7, 2010
    its very inefficient and usually slower than a good breast stroke
     
  17. cresto4

    cresto4 Well-Known Member

    460
    Aug 19, 2010
    maybe...but for short sprints i find heads-up freestyle to be way more intense and aggressive while providing better visibility of what's going on around me and further outside - especially when i'm trying to get through a set. but that's just me, i guess.
     
  18. ND081

    ND081 Well-Known Member

    900
    Aug 7, 2010
    yeah, they're both useful in the right circumstance i suppose
     
  19. still stoked

    still stoked Well-Known Member

    162
    Aug 10, 2011
    I’d say which stroke you should use depends on the given conditions. If its flat it doesn’t make much difference but if its sloppy, choppy or gnarly, it does. Paying attention to the waves and timing your breathing accordingly is important. For me freestyle (or crawl as I learned it) is the preferred stroke mainly because its efficient, I like it and I’m good at it.

    If I’m swimming from the beach out to the line up, ie against the direction of the waves, no matter what the conditions are, its freestyle because you can smoothly dive a wave. If I’m swimming in to the beach I usually use breast because wave direction is at your back and if a wave breaks over your head its no big deal. If I’m swimming parallel to the beach, outside of the impact zone, its whatever I feel like.

    Some years back I snapped my leash on a big NE swell in like late March on an ugly wipeout. It was breaking a good ways off the beach that day so I was a long way out. The first thought through my head was, sheeeeeet how long is it going to take me to get in, because I had been out for a while and was starting to lose body temp. So I started swimming freestyle and I quickly found that the amount of rubber I had on was very inhibiting to that stroke. At that point I’ll admit to being a bit scared. I then turned to a vigorous side stroke which was much easier to do. After a while I realized that vigorous wasn’t necessary because the push of the fetch was moving me along a lot faster than I thought.

    Anybody that wants to play in water over their head should be able to swim and IMO every surfer should be able to swim a good 100 yds in any conditions they are willing to surf in.

    Just for a laugh try paddling your board butterfly, its interesting.
     
  20. Erock

    Erock Well-Known Member

    Aug 6, 2011
    I picked "other": I prefer to have my dive fins, a mask, snorkel and either spear or spear gun. Not only am I efficient horizontally, I am also efficient vertically up to my comfort level holding my breath around 40' and not to mention very deadly to any tasty looking sea creature.

    My favorite swims are off the beach on WB South End and around the jetties at slack high tide and off the beach at Kure on one of the three days every year the water is clear enough to spear on Sheepshead Rock. It's about 1/2-3/4 of a mile offshore and can get interesting on the way in if you are pulling a stringer full of fish....