Recommendations for Small Wave Board

Discussion in 'Surfboards and Surfboard Design' started by GrantLee, Jun 23, 2016.

  1. GrantLee

    GrantLee Well-Known Member

    59
    Dec 28, 2011
    Hey guys,
    I'd like some input on a small wave board, I'm in Virginia Beach if that helps to understand what I'm usually riding. Skill level I'd say I'm on the lower side of intermediate, been surfing regularly for about 2 years. I'm tall, about 6'4" and 190lbs. I'm learning to ride a 6'4" swallow tail thruster (first short board) with quite a bit of volume, and don't have problems with it when the waves are bigger and more forgiving. But I struggle with it when it's stomach or smaller. I've got two longboards that I ride regularly when it's small, and that's fun, but I'd like something to ride to improve my shortboard ability. I've done some reading about quads, and would like to try one, I've only rode thrusters or single fins. But I'm struggling to know how short I should go given my height, and what sort of dimensions I should look for. The 6'4" I have now is 20 3/4 x 2 3/4. Anyone able to chime in and give me some suggestions on specific dimensions, board shapes (fish?), or specific boards I should look into? Thanks
     
  2. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    I hear 2FUN is the resident groveling specialist, talk to him, he can guide you to the best board $1,100 can buy you.
     

  3. Barry Cuda

    Barry Cuda Guest

    Call Roy Stuart, New Zealand--he has the perfect wave machine, with the ideal fins.
    It will be an inexpensive venture. Say 1 million Aussie Dollars???
    ps.....includes shipping!!! What a deal for you!! So that you too, can be successful, like me......!!!
     
  4. DosXX

    DosXX Well-Known Member

    Mar 2, 2013
    Also check with some of the local VB shapers.
     
  5. Wahoowa

    Wahoowa Well-Known Member

    45
    Sep 2, 2009
    I'm from VB - Rusty Dozer - the 6'2" stock dims would be perfect for your weight.
     
  6. waterbaby

    waterbaby Well-Known Member

    Oct 1, 2012
    if you've only been surfing for 2 years, especially in VB, I'm betting you're still a beginner.

    I still like buying boards from world or, at least, nationally renowned shapers. More expensive, but their shapes are usually better tested, there's more info and reviews on them, sizing and volume calculators, etc.

    You can go the local shaper route and save some money, but experience and consistency with them can be all over the place (good chance you'll end up stuck with something that doesn't turn out or ride as well as you expect). Been there, done that.
     
  7. Kanman

    Kanman Well-Known Member

    732
    May 5, 2014
    Go short, fat and wide or get an egg of some sorts if you want a smaller board. I had a local shaper base my board off the Lost bean bag. Instead of paying $750 I payed $500, stayed local and feel more connected with my craft as it was made for ME. It goes in mostly everything and I have really been enjoying it thus far, but grovelers cannot replace or compete with a longboard when its two feet or under on the EC. Summer on the EC is small if you don't have a log you need one. Edit: missed the fact you had a log already. Take Mitchell's advice...
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2016
  8. 2FUN

    2FUN Well-Known Member

    167
    May 10, 2016
    ....far q !!!!!!.... LOL.... Ok I guess I was expecting that to come out sooner or later. My advice? You seem to be on the same level as me but I am 6'0 225. I just picked up a 6'2"x22.5x2.88 Puddle Jumper. Most say that I went waaaay too big, but I will disagree for a few reasons and heres why... 1. My ability is just like you, on the very low side of intermediate so the extra volume helps. 2. Waves where I surf are very mushy, or clean but rolling and never really get higher than 2-3 ft. Some days sprinkled in here and there may be bigger but nothing hollow or barreling, if so, I am not at the level of skill to be out there and you are asking about a summer board no?... 3. Most on here say I went too big and I should have gone with 5'10" 5' 11"OR EVEN SMALLER!! BUT at 6'2" I have just enough volume to catch ANYTHING I want from 1 ft up with this board AND I can turn it. I bet people riding a PJ will tell you on 2ft or below they are riding a long board..... I was out the other day catching every 2ft wave out there with the long boarders all day long, while other short boards or shorter hybrids were sucking wind catching nothing but sea spray... so at the end of the day, and at your skill level, GO WITH MORE VOLUME. Puddle Jumper is a great board, so is the RV, Lazy Toy and the Bottom feeder from what I hear. If you can demo one DO IT. One more thing, I dont know what your volume is on the thruster that you ride but I would look at the same volume you are currently riding or a little more. When you look at these grovelor boards you will find that the same volume you are currently riding can be packed into a much shorter, wider fatter board. The 6'2" PJ I have is 46L. Perfect for me.. You will be surprised at how much volume these companies are pumping into these shorter boards. Good luck I hope this helps...

    OK DawnPatrolSUP feel free to chime in now!!!!
     
  9. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I've surfed VB a bunch of times so I know what your dealing with. If you're surfing regularly there and want a board for under stomach high you will be riding this board a LOT. If you;re already comfortable on a 6'4 in good waves then your small wave board should be a few inches shorter, mo' wider and low rocker (lets face it...when VB is small its not a steep wave).

    Go to a local shaper, and expect that they will steer you towards something 6'0" or so, 22-22.5"" wide, maybe 2 3/4" thick, with a crazy wide tail and as much width in the nose as they can pack in. QUAD. Not keels. What you don't want is unneeded length. Trying to fit a longer than necessary board onto 2 foot beach break wave is going to torture your turns, or force it to be ridden like a log, which you already have.

    Good luck and seriously don't get talked into some $800 fancy west coast brand of the month super stick.
    Your buying a board for crap waves....you don't need a Ferrari.
     
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2016
  10. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Well done , bravo! Hahahaha
     
  11. jaklsurfs

    jaklsurfs Well-Known Member

    501
    Apr 26, 2015
    Well for one if you just go with some special model that some surfboard company has already been selling tons of your basically just ridin a popout so if thats the way yu want to go then run down to local surf shop or costco or whereever your gettin it from ,or crazy as it seems talk to a guy thats builds boards for a living and not just ordering the one yu want from a catalog.much more to a board that performs well than volume.adding a lot of volume to a smaller board makes em corky for one when maybe makin the plan shape a bit bigger and getting more actual planing surface is what yu need .but there it is ,an opinion from some guy yu dont know versus someone with a good reputation and local wave knowledge and maybe gettin a board that can refine your surfing and maybe add to your wave count = more fun
     
  12. GrantLee

    GrantLee Well-Known Member

    59
    Dec 28, 2011
    Thanks for some insights guys. I don't think I'm good enough to ride one of Roy's boards yet, I don't want to ruin his company's reputation if I'm not shredding on my million dollar board. I may or may not go the route of a local shaper, but willing to go talk with one or two and see what I think. Any local or former local VB people have recommendations? I'm also keeping a close eye on craigslist