What is a waterman?

Discussion in 'All Discussions' started by Tlokein, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Just wondering how some of you define a "waterman". Was thinking the other day how that term gets thrown around. I see people who are good surfers but hate longboards, SUPs, sponges, body surfers, hybrids, etc. and only ride HPSBs and only when there's a legit swell. Does being a good surfer automatically mean they are watermen?

    I'm not a good surfer, but I have fun. But if there's no waves then I'll SUP it. If it's shorebreak I'll sponge it. And I'll go bodysurfing anytime. My preference if there's anything to ride at all is always surfing first. But if not...I'd just rather be doing something, anything, in or on the water.

    It's been flat down here...I'm 2.5 hrs from the coast and used all my vacay so weekdays are out for me. And lately its worked out so whenever there's been anything to ride I've been on call that weekend, and being that I have to be w\in an hour of the plant...I'm screwed.

    So I've been going out on the weekends and SUPing on the lake. Water temp has dropped down into the low 40's/30s. I only have a 3/2 so I only get in for a lil bit to cool off and keep my body used to the cold in case I get lucky and catch a weekend swell sometime soon. The 5mil boots are fine for my feet. I'm usually out for 2-4 hrs. Had to use my SUP as an icebreaker to get out to the main channel last Sunday. Was beautiful out though...had a couple bald eagles hunting about 50 yards in front of my board. Saw the usual heron's and cranes and ospreys and migrating birds and a big ol' catfish roll up.

    Does this make me a waterman? IDK...doesn't really matter. Not like I'm going to change anything I'm doing. I just know if I don't get out on the water regularly I get grumpy and don't feel right, and when I do I'm happy.

    Not looking for a pat on the back or props or "yeah dude you ARE a waterman", its just a label after all and meaningless. I'm just curious as I see that term thrown a lot with surfers and was wondering how other people define what a waterman is.

    For me, I'd say it's when you don't have a choice. You HAVE to get in the water just like a junkie needs his smack and a drunk needs his booze. Its just the way it is. It's...home.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    The term "Waterman" evokes in me the old school ethos of being competent in heavy seas in varied craft. Also being skilled in self contained, independent ways of getting in and out of large surf. For example, a person who can surf big waves, can longboard small waves, can sail and navigate small craft, can paddle prone for miles and hours on end, can swim for miles and hours on end, can kayak and white water raft, can and have rescued people from the ocean during sketchy conditions, and can half ass predict local weather and wave conditions due to a wealth of experience and first hand knowledge. A total well rounded knowledge and ability to deal with moving water. What do you call a women who has these attributes? A waterwoman? Sounds about right.
     

  3. Mitchell

    Mitchell Well-Known Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    I think a waterman is someone who has worked in, lived in and played in the water for their entire adult life and has acquired a wide range of skills (way too many to list and surfing well wouldn't be anywhere near the top of the list - things like repairing equipment, welding, rigging, and diving would all rank higher) that would allow them to independently deal with most any ocean situation and have the foresight to avoid the ones that are beyond their capability.

    Having to get in the water like a junkie needs smack is pretty much the opposite of a waterman, because it shows a lack of perspective, and is the kind of risk-taking person who is very likely to get themselves or others into trouble, requiring an actual waterman to come to their aid.
     
  4. Betty

    Betty Well-Known Member

    Oct 14, 2012
    I think of watermen as the people who surf, fish, spear fish, kayak, boat, swim, windsurf, kite board, SUP, sponge board, body surf, pretty much do all that stuff depending on wave and wind conditions and circumstances. I know a few people like that, but not a ton of them.
     
  5. BassMon

    BassMon Well-Known Member

    436
    May 8, 2013
    I agree with you. I for one, get bent out of shape when I see shortboarders bashing longboarders, or vice versa. A few months ago somebody on here bashed on me for being excited about a knee high wave, WHAAAAAT!? It grinds my gears and id go as far as saying anyone who only rides one type of board/wave isn't a true surfer. That's just my opinion though. As far as a waterman goes, I feel its the same thing, just with all things water instead of just the board you ride. If conditions aren't great for surfing, bodyboard the shore break. Body surf. If its flat go fishing, go for a swim (not in a pool!). A waterman to me is someone who gets in the water as often as possible regardless of what activity they partake in.

    To take it a step further, I think understanding is a big part of being a true waterman. Understanding the tides, the winds, the bathometry, and everything else that causes changes in the water and why it causes those changes.

    I'm not calling myself a waterman either, that's not important to me because like you I'm going to do what it is I does. But I do spend a lot of time in the water regardless of the weather or how small or closed out the waves are. When there is nothing to ride I'll fish. My point is that I spend a lot of time around the water, I see some beautiful things. I live on long island. Long ISLAND. Its an island. Yet so many people who live here know nothing about the water, they don't see the beach outside of the summer season. They think rain means waves. I don't expect everyone to surf but the lack of knowledge about the water in people who live on an island baffles me. I like this thread, I'm curious to what others think. Also I apologize for half ranting about what annoys me while trying to respond. Surfing and the water is something I am passionate about, I cant help it.
     
  6. Trump's Balls

    Trump's Balls Well-Known Member

    133
    Jan 24, 2014
    I agree with you Tolkien. I too am 2 or so hours from the beach (Raleighwood whoop whoop!) but like you will sponge, body surf (love the handplane I made last summer) and pretty much do anything to get wet. I also use my vacation days up quickly (then tend to get sick during good swells ;) wink wink) so I can surf. I think having a love and respect for the ocean and doing anything you can to be in the water makes a person a waterman.
     
  7. OldSoul

    OldSoul Well-Known Member

    347
    Nov 7, 2011
    hahaha no one bashed you, it was just a little sarcasm since it was a small day, lighten up amigo. I agree with your perspective of how fellow long islanders view the "beach season". It's a shame, but also important.. imagine if everyone frequented the shores as much as the surfers/spongers? What a nightmare of litter, erosion and congestion..

    Anyway, the real kicker here, is that there are so many hobbies and ways of life out there in the world with people just as passionate about it as we are about this; and to them - we are the ones who don't get it, we are the kooks hahaha... what a concept.
     
  8. Lipsmacker

    Lipsmacker Well-Known Member

    264
    Sep 17, 2012
    If you can't clean a fish you are not a waterman.
     
  9. DawnPatrol321

    DawnPatrol321 Well-Known Member

    Mar 6, 2012
    Nice thread, lot's of perspectives. I think what Mitchell says is true for the most part, but i'm not 100% convinced all "watermen" aren't risk takers and wouldn't put themselves in situations either, with that much skill and knowledge usually comes some level of cockiness or over confidence in ones ability to escape danger. Just something to think about.

    But as far as what makes a person a waterman? IDK, it doesn't really matter like you said, but those who love and respect the ocean and make it a lifestyle and not just something they do to pass time seem to be closer to a waterman than those who only view the beach and ocean as somewhere to vacation or hang out at from time to time. Being a good surfer does not make you a waterman, but it sure does help. Being able to fish, not like an amateur either, but really fish! Also helps. Just ask yourself this question... if you were dropped on an island with no land animals to hunt, by yourself with nothing, could you survive? If you were to take a boat into the middle of the ocean could you handle anything nature throws your way? If your boat were to break down, could you repair it and keep on going? I think it all depends on how far you want to take it, there are certain levels of waterman I suppose, but who really cares right? It changes nothing if you are deemed a waterman, and nobody would really call you that anyways! HAHA Great talk
     
  10. sisurfdogg

    sisurfdogg Well-Known Member

    Jun 17, 2013
    Thanks for the compilation bro! The Nutri-Grain Iron Man looks like what I think of when I hear the word waterman. The announcer cracked me up: "This is cahhhrnage!" in that think Aussie accent. And ShaneO paddling into seven story high Jaws! Que up SpongeBob's "He's Got Big Balls" (that is for you KokiB).
     
  11. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Good point, poor choice of words on my part. I get what you're saying. Was trying to find a way to explain the need I feel to be connected to the water. I certainly respect the ocean and try to make good decisions. I've stood on the shore dying to get in and looked at the conditions and went "nope". I've stopped a couple clueless parents before with a bunch of kids from walking right into a rip. Been out in the gulf stream when off Hatteras when we threw a rod (was young then - Dad and Uncle fixed got it working enough limp in). We've come back from Hatteras to Morehead outside in heavy rain and following seas. I've saved a friend from drowning before too.

    Lots of other examples but I've seen first hand how fast it can get sketchy. And the ocean doesn't care. Doesn't care how much money you make, how nice a guy or what a loser you are, whether you've got kids, or if you can rip a backside air. It will take you if you're not careful. Call me crazy but I kinda like that aspect. Its fair.

    Of course nothing I've done compares to real waterman, those who live and work there every day. Yeah I can clean a fish and fix an engine and such, and don't get rattled easy, but those that live on the sea are on a whole 'nother level. Much respect to those that make a living on the water.

    That being said, taking calculated risks is just part of the territory if you venture out. Pushing the envelope is how we grow and get better, right?

    BTW, sounds like you've got some experience on the commercial side. If so props to you. If you're still doing it then best of luck, hope you make it home safe.
     
  12. RhodyPedro

    RhodyPedro Well-Known Member

    73
    Jan 24, 2012
    A real waterman/woman is someone who doesn't rely on SI for all his/her forecasting
     
  13. Tlokein

    Tlokein Well-Known Member

    Oct 12, 2012
    Rasta said it better than me...

    "the inability to describe something to me, is proof that its f'ing amazing".
     
  14. Surfin_nj

    Surfin_nj Well-Known Member

    155
    Jan 4, 2014
    I believe a waterman is anyone who enjoys the ocean all year round and it plays a big part of their life.
     
  15. yankee

    yankee Well-Known Member

    Sep 26, 2008
    "I eat more chicken any man ever seen..."

    Jim Morrison was a waterman of the first order.
     
  16. BassMon

    BassMon Well-Known Member

    436
    May 8, 2013
    I love Jim Morrison and the doors, but that's a howlin wolf cover. Just throwing it out there. Howlin wolf is awesome
     
  17. worsey

    worsey Well-Known Member

    Oct 13, 2013
    waterman - my nominations

    1) laird comes to mind. once saw him climb out of the east edge of hookipa - just ahead
    of large swells with one hand. the other hand was holding AN ENTIRE sailboard rig.

    2) kid + pool + swimming (better competitive) + lifeguarding + coast guard = SURFER

    3) by default anybody in davy jones' locker.

    4) a captain who goes down with his ship.

    5) DCB riding a 4'10" at 3palms in 1979…….if anybody knows him tell him he blew my doors
    off by shaking off the "what is possible" thing in the dank 1970's.
     
  18. seldom seen

    seldom seen Well-Known Member

    Aug 21, 2012
    Best thread since the changing of the guard. Well done tlokein. Het Steve-O, awesome Roach clip, that dude's one of my personal heroes. Straight shredding.