Why bodyboarding is better than surfing

This thread is about as cool as the Royboard thread.

 

Sounds to me like these bodyboarding dudes have shotted the pier one too many times. Head first through the pilings.

 

Wow. I am blown away at how this thread has spun out of control. Where to begin...

On the enter west coast, there are like 2 beaches/reefs that boogie boards are even allowed to show up at during a swell event, and when the surfers are on those reefs, the boogers have to step aside. The wedge is basically the only one, and there are surfers that go hit that spot all the time now, showing that anything you can do "we can do better" type of thing. If you think there isn't a hierarchy out there, you obviously haven't been. Bodysurfers are respected out west. Not body boarders. A very good friend of mine tried to paddle out at the OB jetty in San Diego on a head high day. I saw him at work later and he literally got spit in his face and left. I said, what did you do man. I said, I told you it was a loc'ed out spot, but guys just don't spit in your face for no reason. What did you do. About 2 minutes into, he explained that he was a pro boogie boarder as a teen ager and that when he said he was "surfing" every day, he meant on a boogie board. I almost spit my coffee out. Not because he was a sponger, but I just pictured him flippering out to the lineup at the OB jetty while its firing, and some long haired ob guy just straight spit in his face.

Ohh man. The difficulty levels are not even a question. I respect anyone out there getting wet. Ride what you want. But don't start telling comparing apples to oranges.

Read my post on this very thread from almost a YEAR AGO now. It explained that I gave my 6 YEAR OLD NIECE a sponge when she was down here. I sh** you not, 15 minutes later, she was doing little barrel rolls on it. Little 360 spins in the white water. A 6 year old mastered two of these "illusive" maneuvers in a matter of MINUTES.

Air reverses? On a boogie? Please. If you have been sponging for more than a month and you can't spin into an air reverse, you should just quit going into the water at all. You obviously picked the wrong hobby.

And im not going to piss in the wind with people about pipeline and sh** when they have never surfed anything like it. I've surfed heavy waves. Lots and lots of them. Never pipe... But you guys are rattling off the top 5 waves in the world and talking about how spongers charge there. Yeah, and surfers OWN those places. Period. When the wave is good, the spongers go bye bye. Surfers have conquered EVERY big slab on earth. It is what it is.

Not trying to bash any boogie boarders. Some go hard. Some are pros. I've seen some talented "watermen" that do it.

But navigating large surf is VASTLY more difficult on a surfboard. PERIOD. Dropping into heavy wave is VASTLY more difficult on a surfboard. I mean, every technique is lightyears ahead as far as difficulty goes....

Have fun to have fun... enjoy it. Love it. word up man...

But if you would rather watch that guy bouncing around the wave faces at Puerto Escondido instead of watching Kelly Slater get shacked constantly and busting 360 air reverses on his SURFBOARD, you need to get your head checked. I would watch kelly slater surf knee high Cocoa Beach over that video....

Everyone needs to stop contradicting yourselves. Even if you sponge, you love surfing. You love Kelly Slater. You just feel the need to say otherwise because you feel like you haven't been invited to the party.

I mean, I can't imagine what it would be like to grow up in Southern California and being an aspiring pro sponger. To take the abuse for all the kids on the surf scene. Must be a nightmare.

 

Where do I even start. When the wave is good spongers go bye bye at pipe? I've seen 30 spongers out at pipe when it's absolutely pumping/swell of the year. Just google pipeline and look at the videos of the swells genius.

It's harder to paddle OUT on bodyboard than a surfboard assuming equivalent skill level. Experienced surfers that have tried bodyboarding in big swells have called it incredibly difficult and "how do you even get out".

LMAO....Only 2 spots where you can bodyboard "out west". You're so full of crap Dude right there you show absolute incredible ignorance. And people spit in his face and he just took it and left? Yeah ok....
You're basically calling surfers in Cali punk *****es. Because that's who would spit in someones face because they were riding something different in the water. Or quite frankly spit in someones face at all. Better watch out at mission beach....You can't sponge there. Give me a break.

You're a joke dude. Go home

 

So zach, only 2 break on entire west coast where bodyboards are allowed? That's definitely the dumbest statement in the entire thread and shows your complete lack of intelligence. Keep spitting in peoples faces like a little *****
LOL

 

First of all, if you went to the mission beach jetty, on a sponge, you would not only get spit on, you would get knocked unconcious on the beach or in the parking lot. Don't name drop places of which you know nothing... Yeah, go boogie board the MB jetty and let me know what happens you twerp.

Name ANYWHERE other than the wedge and one place on the LJ reefs where boogers can stay in the lineup during a swell event... Have you ever EVEN BEEN TO CALIFORNIA???? EVER? I mean, I don't care if you lived and surfed there every day for 10 years like me, but have you ever even been in the pacific ocean?

WTF do you know about any of this? You wear flippers with your board. Any of use who have gone skin diving or open ocean swimming have put fins on... Don't give me your Bullsh** about pros saying how hard it is to paddle with a sponge... WHO THE FU** are you talking about...

Your so full of sh** with everything you say...

Sure kid, keep sponging. Keep living the dream....

Remember last year when Kelly Slater said he was retiring from surfing to start boogie boards... He actually said it... AND IT WAS APRIL FOOLS DAY, AND IT WAS A JOKE....

So, if you haven't been to ANY of the places you speak of... Hawaii, California... Shut up then. So you saw a couple videos with spongers in the lineup at PIPE? That CAUSE IT WAS ON A SPONGING SITE OR IN A SPONGING VIDEO!!!!!

If the fu**ing VOLCOM TEAM IS SURFING PIPE IN THE WINTER, YOUR BOOGIE BOARDERS HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY ARE DONE... There are rules to th** sh** man...

Mission Beach... WTF do you know about mission beach? You would get smashed in the face by a meth head immediately for snaking a barrel from those psychos.

 

Thread of the Year consideration should be given. I will say that I am an expert bodysurfer, not on the level of Mark Cunningham or whatever his name is, but I can go big and do torpedo spins and cool **** on hairy wedges and closeouts and land on my feet. I'd still rather surf on a board standing up. Body surfing is pure, and yes, you can stick your **** in the wave for steerage and control. It just slows you down too much to make critical sections.

 

Look at the hundreds of youtube videos of guys getting barreled at the OB jetty. Show me ONE clip where you see a boogie board in the lineup or in a wave there. Show me one there on a good day. You wont see one, cause guys that flipper out to places like that get spit in the face. Believe it.

I mean, what do you think there are fu**ing boogie boarders in the lineup at the south peak at Blacks when its firing? Get the fu** outta here kid. You don't know sh** about surfing, sh** about boogie boarding or have any general knowledge of the ocean as it related to human recreation.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4e53wnInX4

An oldie but a goodie.

 

No I've seen pipe on surf reports as well as cams. Plenty of spongers at pipe, one of the most localized heavy spot on the planet. You're comparing that place to the mush burgers(in relative comparison to pipe) in california? LOL

Dude, the whole localism thing is long gone. Go ahead hit someone and land a felony charge or get your ass kicked. That's what will happen. This isn't the wild west. One phone call to 911 and that's it. You attack someone, especially with a group you're looking at felony assault. Good luck with the "he was on a bodyboard so I had to spit in his face and attack him". Hell, "surf rage" is much worse in australia and hawaii. There are simply more surfers than bodyboarders. There's 1000 breaks you can boogie board in california, australia, hawaii. Thankfully everyone isn't an arrogant ass like you.

I've been to mission you imbecile. They have section flagged off where they don't even allow surfing when lifeguards are there. Huge empy sections as well even before lifeguards get there in the morning. WTF are you talking about? HUGE sections of beach to yourself. Most of the peaks are empty. It's a huge stretch of beach between imperial/pacific/mission.

Anyone with half a brain can type in these breaks on youtube with bodyboarding and see people riding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7bzpRbKCwU
10 million other examples.

Yeah and they also have bodyboarding contests that close off pipe. Another ignorant comment

What kind of little ***** spits in peoples faces? Just curious about that. You call yourself a man? You sound like a little punk 13 year old getting his first piercing.

Your whole ranting post makes me think you have some serious self confidence issues. This sounds like a post from someone in their early teens who want to be "cool".

 

Let me try and shed some light on this subject for you shark hunter. I think most of us on here don't care what you ride as long as your having fun. Im willing to bet that most of the "hate" and jokes made about body boarders is because of how your acting. Why is everything about being "core" with you. You hate on winter surfing saying that we only do it to show how "core" we are. You say we think were so "core" because we stand up. Yet you post video and pictures of pro bbers, what are you trying to show us how core you are? You don't make sense.

If your having fun its all gravy and I don't care what you ride. What I really cant stand is stupidity. Pro bbers do have skills no doubt about that. That dosnt change the fact that surfing, on an average joe level, is harder then BBing, on an average joe level. And surfing at a pro level is harder then bbing at a pro level. Its just fact, your standing on your feet. Pro BBers can take steep drops, that most average surfers or bbers would not attempt. A pro surfer will make that same drop, and its harder because he is standing. Nothing to do with being "core". The fact that you compare pro bbers at pipe to an average joe surfer on here is retarded.

My cousin went down to OBX, at the time he was little, maybe 7 or 8. Lives in PA, never even SEEN an ocean let alone been in an ocean. He saw me and my uncle surfing and decided he wanted to go out on a BB. With in minutes he was catching waves, dropping in, going down the line and pulling into the barrel. No hate, but you and I both know he would not of been ale to go down the line on a surfboard. Id be impressed if he even caught a wave or stood up. Also paddeling out on BB in big conditions is harder? Im not going to bring up pipe or other big name spots that I never surfed. But I will say that not every surfer is on a shortboard. I enjoy riding LBs, I enjoy shortboards too but a LB in big surf is a lot of fun to me. There is no way you can tell me its easier to paddle out on a 9ft board then a BB. Easier to paddle sure, easier to break through walls of white water? No way.

Surfing IS harder. No hate. You have said that having fun is what its all about, and your right. If your having fun then good for you. Really. But no one is going to stop bashing you and your sport until you stop acting like a child. Im all for a good debate, but atleast argue like a man. I mean seriously, bringing up pros and waves that you've never surfed is childish and just shows how desperate you are to make your point.

 

Isn't it lovely how people can turn something as serene and beautiful as the nature of the ocean and turn it into a road rage event? It's all about enjoying the ocean and having fun. Some people are really screwed up.

 

I would post videos of myself if I wanted to do that. You know exactly what I was doing posting those videos. Stop acting dumb. I destroyed some people's arguments on here with those videos

 

Settle down people, its just the internet.

As a bodyboarder (I ride surfboards as well), I can tell you the surfing world doesn't give a **** about bodyboarders. Bodyboarding got big in the 80s, and it was getting a lot of attention. The surf brands didn't like that and basically shut the doors on bodyboarding ever since.

With that being said, saying that bodyboarders dont get respect at spots like Pipe and other big named spots just isn't correct. Mike Stewart, is one of the most respected wave riders in Hawaii. And, many other bodyboarders around the world have also gained this type of respect at their local breaks. Damien King was awarded a Surfer of the Century from hugely popular surfing area of Port MacQuerie Australia.

 

Are you insane? I didn't spit on anyone, nor do I advocate it. I also don't fight people in the parking lot. Read the threads bro. You are manipulating everything I am saying.

A) I said MB Jetty, the only real wave in Mission. I didn't say the fu**ing swim zone.

B) Localism is dead? No its not. I am not advocating it. But if you think that guys arent going to physically remove you from the lineup if you don't leave when they tell you on a good day there, you are kidding yourself...

If you want to be the kid calling the cops cause you got a bloody nose, then so be it. I know there are little *****es like you anywhere. You want to show up where you are not inviting, sit there pestering people, then when you get punched in the face, you cry about it and call the cops.

Even if you could paddle out at a real spot. Why would you. Why would you go somewhere where no one wants you there. The locals are burning you and giving you the stink eye... Why would you do that?

You do know that there are no laws prohibiting anyone from entering the water during contests ANYWHERE in the world. CA, HI. Just cause they clear the beach does NOT mean that people cant still surf in the middle of the contest... The reason people dont do it is because its a **** move.

Cause thats my point. You shouldn't do something just because you can. If the locals dont want you there, move on.... And im telling 99 out of 100 beach in HI or CA on a good day, DONT WANT YOU THERE.

Look at the youtube video of the kick getting punched in his face like 10 times by the hawaiian a few years ago for interfering with a contest. The authorities didnt do anything. The kid got beat up, on camera, in public and its all over youtube... You know what happened to the guy that punched him? NOTHING!!! He didn't go to jail. No one called the cops. Cause the kid was at a place where he wasn't supposed to be, and he got clocked for it. Just cause you dont agree with it doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

You aren't listening to a word I am saying obviously... You just don't get it...

Your general point seems to be that Spongers get respect throughout the world at great breaks... I dissagree.... Lets stay on that topic. You act like you can roll up to a spot whenever you want with a sponge. You are WRONG...

I get it, you like sponging. Good for you. But no matter HOW GOOD you ever get, you will still be a sponger and you can travel all over the world, expecting to get treating like just another surfer, but if you got finds under your arm and a boogie board, you are gonna get the same look from every local on every edge of the earth. We all may speak different lagnuages and have different relisions, but we all have the same reaction when we see someone flippering out on a firing day... Ohh boy, here we go with this guy.

You and I have been pissing in the wind over multiple threads...

Im not picking on you or any other boogie boarder. And you obviously have the confidence issues because you are so sensitive about your sponging lifestyle.... I havent heard anyone question the integrity of the surfing community.

 

No you didn't, all you did was open the door for us who surf to bring in our pros into the argument. No point was proven except that your reaching pretty hard to make this argument. The guys who said BB takes no skill meant it on a average joe level compared to surfing at a average joe level. Anyone who meant pro bbers don't have skill, well thats stupid and that person isn't worth arguing with. A pro in anything clearly has skill

 

1)Yes I did
2)That's exactly what was said. Bodyboarders have NO skill. None of them. It's for 12 year olds. After my video, suddenly that argument was changed. LOL

 

I just can't get involved with this sh!t b/c the last thing I need is another group of humans to hate. But for the sake of historical accuracy, if we're thinking of the same vid, that's the one where Kainoa, then Kala Alexander, pound some stand up dude at Pipe b/c he wouldn't leave the contest zone, in a BB contest.

 

#1 I'm not a kid. I'm really questioning your maturity level. Is this a school yard? Were you a bully in school? Are you still in school. I'm flabbergasted that you're actually an adult.

#2 If someone bigger than me decides to attack me solely because I'm on a bodyboard and I refuse to leave at his orders(who the **** is he?) then you're damn right I will call the cops and have him arrested. It's called assault. That's not mutual combat. No one owns the ocean. And good luck telling the judge that he attacked me because I refused to leave a public ocean.

 

And that average joe spongers do score thickies...



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